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Onderwerp: 	Re: [BPQ32] L3/L4 operation intermittently stuck
Datum: 	Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:18:16 -0400
Van: 	Tadd Torborg tadd@mac.com [BPQ32] <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
Antwoord-naar: 	BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
Aan: 	bpq group <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>



The event occurred again.  I have not taken action to fix it.  None of 
the setup or versions has changed.  Here is the data


Connected to TelnetServer
r r
TADD:KA2DEW-2} Routes
 > 1 NC4FG-2   200   9!1262   46   3% 0 0 23:08  3 200
 > 2 KM4DVE-2  200   3! 175    2   1% 0 0 23:10  0 199
 > 3 KM4IFU-2  200   5! 926   15   1% 0 0 23:11  0 189
 > 4 KM4IFV-2  200   6!1135   59   5% 0 0 23:11  0 200
l
TADD:KA2DEW-2} Links
NC4FG-2 KA2DEW-2 S=5 P=1 T=3 V=2
KM4IFV-2 KA2DEW-2 S=5 P=4 T=3 V=2
KM4IFU-2 KA2DEW-2 S=5 P=3 T=3 V=2
KM4DVE-2 KA2DEW-2 S=5 P=2 T=3 V=2
u
TADD:KA2DEW-2} G8BPQ Network System 6.0.10.16 for Linux (824)
TNC Uplink Port 32/1(KA2DEW)       <--> Host01(CROWD:KA2DEW-9)
TNC Uplink Port 32/2(KA2DEW)
Circuit(NATHAN:KM4DVE-2 KM4DVE)    <--> Host02(CROWD:KA2DEW-9)
TNC Uplink Port 32/3(KA2DEW)
stat
TADD:KA2DEW-2}
Uptime (Days Hours Mins)     03:22:52
Semaphore Get-Rel/Clashes           1   429612
Buffers:Max/Cur/Min/Out/Wait      828      824      807        0        0
Known Nodes/Max Nodes              13      200
L4 Connects Sent/Rxed               4        0
L4 Frames TX/RX/Resent/Reseq     2324     4810      284        0
L3 Frames Relayed                 222
     Port 01  Port 02  Port 03  Port 04  Port 32
L2 Frames Digied        0        0        0        0        0
L2 Frames Heard      7647     5420     6256     7400        0
L2 Frames Rxed       5994     3581     4455     5666      676
L2 Frames Sent       8378     5589     6473     7918       99
L2 Timeouts         557      216      154      138        0
REJ Frames Rxed         0        0        0        2        0
RX out of Seq           2        2        0        0        0
L2 Resequenced          0        0        0        0        0
Undrun/Poll T/o         0        0        0        0        0
RX Overruns           0        0        0        0        0
RX CRC Errors           1        1        0        2        0
FRMRs Sent          0        1        0        0        0
FRMRs Received          0        0        0        0        0
Frames abandoned        0        0        0        0        0
Link Active %       0   0    0   0    0   0    0   0    0

Tadd Torborg
tadd@mac.com <mailto:tadd@mac.com>




> On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Tadd Torborg tadd@mac.com 
> <mailto:tadd@mac.com> [BPQ32] <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> John,
>
>   yes, there is a full correlation between the R R queued packets and 
> the links  having issues.  At least from the last time the issue 
> occurred.  I haven’t seen it since I did that movie.  I did a KILL on 
> the linbpq after that and after it started up again I haven’t seen the 
> problem happen.
>
> The queued packets count in R R goes up when I type packets to be 
> sent.  I’m not sure if it goes up when I try to connect.
>
> I’ll do the L command the next time the issue presents as well as R R, 
> and then try connecting and watching R R and L, and etc..  .
>
> I had a program running on the Raspberry PI which requires an RR/Info 
> frames sent/increase every 10 minutes on every dedicated link with 
> qual > 70.  All of our manually entered links have a qual of 190 or 
> 200.  If the program doesn’t see an /Info frames sent/ increase since 
> 10 minutes ago, it connects across the link, gets the connect text, 
> and then sends control C, d<return>.    If it doesn’t complete any 
> task in 60 seconds, it sends  it sends control C, d<return>.  If at 
> the start of 10 minutes the host port is connected, it sends control 
> C, d<return>.   I stopped that program after the issue started, before 
> I did the movie.  Several of the other nodes are also running that 
> program.  If the issue does not re-occur for a few days, I’ll try 
> turning that program on again.  The purpose of the program is to get 
> some/info frames sent/ and/info frames retransmitted/values for R R so 
> we can determine the reliability of the links.  The program does a 
> delta on the two numbers every hour on both ends of every link from 
> the node running the program and saves that on the PI for later 
> retrieval.  I also wrote a program that accepts an incoming connect 
> from the node to “PERFö and dumps out the last 24 hours worth of link 
> qualities.  For the moment our network is only used by a few people so 
> without the program it isn’t really obvious how well the links work.
>
> Right now we have a total of 11 nodes and about 5 daily participants, 
> at most 9 total participants.  3 of the nodes are owned and maintained 
> by me.   We have a total of 26 radios with TNC-PIs on-line in the 
> network, only 20 of which are part of active links.  4 others are 
> waiting for other nodes to come on-line and 2 are from planning on 
> nodes that never happened.  There are 10 more nodes that are not fully 
> assembled, or are presently outside the range of our network.
>
> I wonder if my performance and artificial load program is doing 
> something bad?  It uses the host interface as an emulated TNC.  You 
> can see that set-up in the config file.
>
> Tadd Torborg
> tadd@mac.com <mailto:tadd@mac.com>
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 11:29 AM, 'John Wiseman'john.wiseman@cantab.net 
>> <mailto:john.wiseman@cantab.net>[BPQ32] <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com 
>> <mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tadd,
>>
>> I think the R R output is the clue, but that is actually showing 
>> packets queued at level 2 to go over the node-node connection. I 
>> assume the nodes you have trouble connecting with are the ones 
>> showing queued frames, and it would be useful to confirm if the count 
>> goes up each time you try to make a connection.
>>
>> This leaves the question of why is the L2 connection stuck. What does 
>> the L command show?
>>
>> 73, John
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*BPQ32@yahoogroups.com 
>> <mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>[mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]
>> *Sent:*11 October 2015 02:15
>> *To:*bpq group
>> *Subject:*[BPQ32] L3/L4 operation intermittently stuck
>>
>> I’m having some difficulty suddenly on one of my Raspberry PI/TNC-PI/ 
>> pilinbpq  nodes.  It gets into a mode where uplink/downlink traffic 
>> in and out works great on all ports but circuit traffic from and to 
>> other g8bpq nodes gets hung up and appears to be not working.  It is 
>> actually working but can be delayed by many minutes.  You can see the 
>> stuck packets in the R R response — see below.  Perhaps L4 is waiting 
>> to time-out and then will work again?  I never see the packets go 
>> through until they finally do several minutes later.   This issue 
>> showed itself after I RESET the Raspberry PI attempting to make the 
>> problem go away.  It came back within 11 hours of the reset, maybe 
>> sooner.  It isn’t consistent but once the issue starts, it never 
>> fully clears.  Perhaps I could have fixed it by killing pilinbpq and 
>> restarting it or some other big manual something.  I’m hoping 
>> somebody can point to this and tell me where I was stupid.
>>
>> I’m running pilinbpq 6.0.10.16 April 2015
>>
>> Raspberry PI 2 quadcore
>>
>> I have my cfg file and a copy of the Monitor traffic from BPQtermTCP 
>> and also a Quicktime movie watching BPQtermTCP as the bug is 
>> demonstrated.
>>
>> The*sysinfo*file has linux versions, CPU identification, uptime, 
>> installed packages, usb devices, and other useful information.
>>
>> The logs and whatnot are here:
>>
>> http://torborg.com/nodeproblem/nb_bpq32.cfg
>>
>> http://torborg.com/nodeproblem/nb_monitor_log.txt
>>
>> http://torborg.com/nodeproblem/nb.mov
>>
>> http://torborg.com/nodeproblem/nb_sysinfo.txt
>>
>> As I’m typing this, this is just a few minutes after i closed the 
>> movie and after I took the monitor log, I can get L4/L3 circuit 
>> connects to NATHAN:km4dve-2 and JENRET:km4ifv-2, ports 4 and 2.  But 
>> not to FIN:nc4fg-2 or ERECH:km4ifu-2, ports 1 and 3.  But I can get 
>> connects to any of them by connecting to nodename dash number.  Ok. 
>>  after a couple of minutes I finally got the connect acknowledge and 
>> info text from FIN and ERECH.  This has to have something to do with 
>> L4 timeout.  That’s the only thing I can think of that is set that 
>> long.  L4TIMEOUT=180 in the cfg.  could that be the 26 resent? ok. 
>>  I’m convinced that this could be it.  Why is this happening?   Why 
>> those particular ports?  We’re on very quiet channels.  Only 2 users 
>> per frequency.  The bpq32.cfg for the 4 ports is almost identical. 
>> Should be different only in the I2C address #.  The TNC-PI could be 
>> different versions but I don’t know how to query those.
>>
>> See STATs result below in this email.
>>
>> Thanks for any input!
>>
>> TADD:KA2DEW-2} Routes
>>
>> > 1 NC4FG-2   200   5! 264    8   3% 0 0 00:57 *6 200 *
>>
>> > 2 KM4DVE-2  200   5!  12    1   8% 0 0 00:58  0 199
>>
>> > 3 KM4IFU-2  200   5! 136    7   5% 0 0 01:00 *7 189*
>>
>> > 4 KM4IFV-2  200   1! 149   12   8% 0 0 00:58  0 200
>>
>> stat
>>
>> TADD:KA2DEW-2}
>>
>> Uptime (Days Hours Mins) 00:11:21
>>
>> Semaphore Get-Rel/Clashes           1  50303
>>
>> Buffers:Max/Cur/Min/Out/Wait      828  820      803        0  0
>>
>> Known Nodes/Max Nodes      10  200
>>
>> L4 Connects Sent/Rxed           9      0
>>
>> L4 Frames TX/RX/Resent/Reseq      353  767       26        0
>>
>> L3 Frames Relayed     6
>>
>>  Port 01  Port 02  Port 03  Port 04  Port 32
>>
>> L2 Frames Digied        0  0        0      0  0
>>
>> L2 Frames Heard    1048  423      851      856  0
>>
>> L2 Frames Rxed      907  272      701      708  233
>>
>> L2 Frames Sent     1152  443      919      923  145
>>
>> L2 Timeouts      88 12       61     25  0
>>
>> REJ Frames Rxed       0  0        0      0  0
>>
>> RX out of Seq   0        0      1  0        0
>>
>> L2 Resequenced        0  0        0      0  0
>>
>> Undrun/Poll T/o         0        0  0        0      0
>>
>> RX Overruns       0  0        0      0  0
>>
>> RX CRC Errors   0        0      0  0        0
>>
>> FRMRs Sent    0        0        0  0        0
>>
>> FRMRs Received    0        0        0  0        0
>>
>> Frames abandoned    0        0        0  0        0
>>
>> Link Active % 0   0    0   0    0   0    0   0    0   0
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> *Tadd / KA2DEW*
>>
>> *tadd@mac.com <mailto:tadd@mac.com>*
>>
>> *Raleigh**NC** FM05pv*
>>
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>>
>>
>
>

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