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Onderwerp: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Reject Lists
Datum: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:31:30 -0500
Van: KA9LCF ka9lcf@yahoo.com [BPQ32] <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
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I am pretty certain that amateur radio operators who go through the
trouble, expense and exposure of setting up a BBS do not have intentions
of rejecting anyone but the most offensive or, reasonably so, illegal
operators. And with exception of the illegal operators, those that
border on violations of decorum, would not be excluded without the SYSOP
having first sent warnings or at least a reply to state the reason(s)
for the exclusion outright. I am also fairly certain that once that
exclusion was implemented that if the excluded party were to offer
explanation or assurance to discontinue the offenses for the exclusion,
the SYSOP would reverse it.
Part of what has been missing from this discussion on rejection, is for
everyone to remember that we are all guests of someone's station. What
might be okay for one system administrator, might be taboo for another;
there is no rule that says any station must operate at the behest of
another. Repeater trustees have the authority to issue a cease and
desist order to any amateur of the system under their trust. The FCC
has been quite clear on this and will back up the repeater
owner/trustee. The same applies to BBS administrators.
Just my two bits (used to be 2 cents, but rates have gone up).
73,
Bradd - KA9LCF
This brings us all back to remembering to have fun and enjoy, but to
also be mindful of your content so as to assure it is in keeping with
Amateur Radio decorum.
On 2/4/2016 10:25 AM, charles brabham n5pvl@uspacket.org [BPQ32] wrote:
>
> We hear platitudes about how BBS SYSOPs who do or do not want to
> participate in non-ham links ought to be able to do so. - The only way
> to effectively do so however, requires an ability to isolate one type
> of network (ham) from the other (non-ham).
>
> I suspect this is the real reason why there has ever been any
> resistance to an ability to reject by callsign.
>
> 73 DE Charles, N5PVL
>
>
> On 2/4/2016 12:17 AM, ag6qo@yahoo.com [BPQ32] wrote:
>>
>> John,
>> I believe that times have changed and that in order to make it
>> reasonable to prevent illegal use of our stations, whether intended
>> or not, this sort of user lockout is valuable.
>>
>> To be effective, it has to work not only for BPQmail, but for the
>> node as well. For RF connections as well as AXIP.
>>
>> While there will always be some power-drunk sysops who would abuse
>> such a feature, I believe they would not readily attract users anyway.
>>
>> I'd much rather see a community of enabled amateurs encouraging each
>> other to provide connections, without worry of breaking some law.
>>
>> By the way, I am finding the L4 logging very useful already.
>> Thanks again.
>> Joe
>> AG6QO
>>
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